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P2161 Vehicle Speed Sensor “B” Intermittent/Erratic/High

Technical Description of OBD-II Trouble Code

Intermittent / Erratic / High Vehicle Speed Sensor “B”

What does that signify?

This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is a generic powertrain code that applies to all vehicles manufactured from 1996 onwards (Ford, Dodge, GMC, Chevy, etc.). Although it is a generic code, the specific repair steps may vary depending on the make and model of the vehicle.

When the stored code P2161 is displayed, it indicates that the powertrain control module (PCM) has detected an intermittent, erratic, or excessive voltage input signal from the vehicle speed sensor (VSS) B. The designation B usually refers to the secondary VSS in a system that uses multiple vehicle speed sensors.

OBD II vehicle speed sensors are typically electromagnetic sensors that use a toothed reluctor ring wheel or gear, which is mechanically attached to an axle, transmission/transfer case output shaft, differential gear, or driveshaft. As the shaft rotates, the metal reluctor ring also rotates. The reluctor ring completes a circuit with the stationary electromagnetic sensor as the reluctor passes very close to the sensor’s electromagnetic tip. The notches between the teeth of the reluctor ring create interruptions in the sensor circuit. The PCM (and possibly other controllers) recognizes the combination of circuit completions and interruptions as voltage waveform patterns.

The PCM monitors vehicle speed by using input data from one or more vehicle speed sensors. It compares the inputs from the VSS with inputs from the antilock brake control module (ABCM) or electronic brake control module (EBCM). The primary VSS input (B) is usually initiated by the VSS in the transmission, but secondary VSS inputs may be monitored using one or more wheel speed sensors.

If the PCM detects an intermittent, erratic, or high voltage input signal from the primary VSS, it stores a code P2161 and may illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp. An intermittent, erratic, or high voltage input condition may be caused by an electrical or mechanical problem.

Code Severity & Symptoms

Since conditions that may result in a stored code P2161 could cause drivability and ABS issues, it should be considered severe and addressed with some urgency.

Symptoms of a P2161 code may include:

  • Erratic operation of the speedometer/odometer
  • Irregular transmission shift patterns
  • Other stored transmission and ABS codes
  • Illumination of the service engine soon lamp, traction control lamp, or antilock brake lamp
  • Unexpected activation/deactivation of the traction control system (if equipped)
  • Inoperable ABS system in some cases
  • Causes

    Possible causes for this code include:

  • Excessive buildup of metal debris on speed sensor/s
  • A defective wheel speed or vehicle speed sensor
  • Cut or damaged wiring harnesses or connectors (especially near speed sensors)
  • Damaged or worn teeth on a reluctor ring
  • A faulty PCM, ABCM, or EBCM
  • Diagnostic and Repair Procedures

    To diagnose a code P2161, you will need a diagnostic scanner, a digital volt/ohmmeter (DVOM), possibly an oscilloscope, and a reliable source of vehicle information. An ideal diagnostic tool would be a scanner with an integrated DVOM and oscilloscope.

    Start the diagnosis by visually inspecting the system wiring, speed sensors, and connectors. Repair any open or shorted circuits as necessary and clean excessive metallic debris from affected sensors. If possible, also check the integrity of the entire reluctor ring when removing the sensor.

    Next, connect the scanner to the vehicle diagnostic port and retrieve all stored trouble codes and freeze-frame data. Write down this information as it may be helpful during the diagnosis. Clear the codes and test drive the vehicle to see if the symptoms persist or if the code is reset.

    Professional technicians often search the vehicle information source for applicable technical service bulletins (TSB) that match the symptoms and stored codes of the vehicle in question. The diagnostic information contained in the TSB can aid in correctly diagnosing the P2161.

    While test driving the vehicle, observe the wheel speed and/or vehicle speed using the scanner data stream. By narrowing the data stream to display only relevant fields, you can increase the speed and accuracy of obtaining the desired data. Inconsistent, erratic, or high readings from the VSS or wheel speed sensors may indicate wiring, electrical connector, or sensor problems in the general area of the system malfunction.

    After pinpointing the problematic area, use the DVOM to perform a resistance test on the sensor in question. Consult the vehicle information source for the manufacturer’s recommended testing procedure for the VSS and replace sensors that do not meet the specifications. The oscilloscope can be used to retrieve live data from each individual VSS by probing the sensor signal wire and the sensor ground wire. To safely perform this type of testing, securely jack or hoist the vehicle as the driveline needs to be running.

    Vehicle speed sensors are often damaged during regular transmission maintenance, and wheel speed sensors (and sensor wiring harnesses) are frequently broken during brake repairs. If a code P2161 is displayed immediately after a repair, suspect a damaged sensor harness or sensor.

    Additional diagnostic notes:

  • When performing circuit resistance and continuity testing with a DVOM, always disconnect electrical connectors from related controllers to avoid damaging the controller
  • Exercise caution when removing sensors from transmission cases for testing, as hot transmission fluid can be harmful
  • Professional Service

    While we always recommend resolving this issue mechanically, if for some reason that is not possible, we offer the option to permanently delete this specific DTC. All other codes will continue to function. If you are interested in this option, please upload your ECU file to our portal.

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